Kiss my kitty, pussycats

[Gnatty Martinez]

Hi. Fair warning, as you probably expected, I'm bitter. When I left the game, I said that if you two were going to be the Final 2, that would be the worst Final 2 I ever faced in an ORG. I kind of cooled down due to the slow pace of this game, but then that shitty opening statement of Danielle kind of fueled my anger again and reminded me of how much I don't like that one of you will win. I guess you won't think this is 'fun', but it's really no fun for me either as I have to cast a vote for one of you and I don't want to vote for either of you.

First, I'd like to address both of you separately. I don't really want a response. If you start arguing with me then you'll immediately lose my vote. To make it fair, I'm allowing you a response of at most 50 words to my paragraph about your game.

Danielle -
If you want to have any shot at my vote, drop the character. It's cool to be in character as it adds to a certain strategy (coming off as dumb/naive/whatever), but you come off as a five year old and we're in the Finale now so show some respect and just be yourself. I guess some of us know who you are anyway, and you're much smarter than this so drop that stupid character and the "XOXOXOXO" and start defending your gameplay, telling about your moves, and at least TRY to appear like a worthy finalist. I was looking forward to your opening statement and hoping it would be good, because honestly I was ready to give you my vote simply for the fact that Shane is a coward.

I just hope there was more to your game than being fake and flaky/inactive-ish the whole time. That's how I perceived you, and your opening statement doesn't give me a reason to change my view. You said you played the right game since you won the veto when you needed to win. Are you for real? That veto was a luck competition, it had nothing to do with playing the 'right' game of Big Brother, skills, or brains. Step it up girl.



Shane -
You are a coward, period. You used your two brain cells to identify the threats and went after them, wow. Well, let's not give this cast more credit than it deserves, since the cast in its entirety sucked balls. Most of us were either inactive, completely insane, emotional wrecks, or socially inept. Yes, I belong in that last category. You belong in none, so congrats on that. Anyway, "threats" is a relative term in this case and I wouldn't pat myself on the back too much for outlasting this bunch. In Big Brother, I find gunning for the biggest threats the whole time the easiest strategy. Whoever is pegged as a threat has that target on their back, and once they don't win that one crucial challenge they're gone. It's as simple as that. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to figure that out. You can say that you made the right social connections with everyone and all that nonsense and get all emotional about how much you appreciated their friendship (your F4 ceremony), but if they were ever a threat in your eyes you would have gunned for them and cut their throats because you are a coward. On top of that, you were rude andl I already called you out on this, but there was really no need to accuse me of said stuff when you were going to vote me out anyway.

Posting these ceremonies so quickly after winning something ticked me off as well. That's not how you play Big Brother - give everyone some time to come to you with whatever they have to say like people do in the real Big Brother. You just seemed to want to avoid difficult conversations by doing things so rapidly and that's another thing that shows that you're a coward. You can praise yourself lucky that you're sitting next to a bag of hammers with a name tag "Danielle".





Now on to my questions. I don't have a whole lot to ask, but perhaps something will come to my mind and I'll ask one or two more things later.

Danielle, tell me the 3 key strategic moves/things you did that brought you to the end. I don't want to hear about challenge wins.

Shane, who did you vote for in the Robert vs. Marcellas vote, and why did you vote that way? Also, why were you so negative about Robert when you were aligned with him? Like you talked him down repeatedly and that was just rude. Don't butter me up or try to fix things with me or Robert or whoever, just be real and to the point.

For both:
I want Danielle to answer this question first. Then Shane can give his version of how it went down.

I'd like to know EVERYTHING that went down during the week that Ian got evicted. Who suggested what, what rumors were out there and who spread them, who were mentioned as the targets, how did the targets change, just everything from the start of that week til the moment Ian was evicted.


Good luck pussies.

[Danielle Murphree]

Okay Natalie I had the most respect for you as a player, so idk how you say I was acting like a 5 year old when you attacked me first, that hurt me and I just defended myself, and the way I didn't was immature I'm sorry for that. I'm not that nasty vile player, but u got me first. So I would say the three key things that got me here were. 1. Getting along with the majority of everyone, I mean I did know I couldnt gv any1 a reason to easily nom me, I'm not that dumb. 2. Knowing who had tight bonds, where the power was, stay informed on that. 3. Make moves that benefited me, wether that was getting votes to evict someone who was tight with like 3ppl left in the game [threat later on if up against] Or make up lies, alot of ppl don't know but when I put you up with Marcellas and after the veto not used. I lied to Shane, yup, I told him that you were telling me the week b4, how bad you wanted him out, and that you said yes we need Kara out her an Shane are tight. He was upset, so yea that's how bad I needed you out. You were my and all of our biggest threat, tbh. Okay about Ian, I barely member what went down that week, cuz at that point I wasnt too much into it, since my goal early on was just stay nice, talk to who wins hoh, gv no reason for an hoh to nom u that early, simple. But I do know I was sad cuz Ian and I were close. And Shane n I talked about this like last week and he said he was bummed after and it was a mistake. That is all I recall, and I wanna follow up, by yes that comp was luck but I was close in the majority of em, yes just 1 person wins, but that shows I wasn't THAT dumb. I hope u don't hate me Natalie, and forgive the way I spoke to you on yr way out. You were a beast and threat have u be here right now an me jury. My vote might of went to you, just cause I respect a fighter and I may have not had to do that this season, but I respect you for it and that's me being realg

[Shane Meaney]

I won’t argue about my gameplay with you because I don’t think I can convince you and I only have 27 words left. I’m sorry if my decisions were quick but my mind was always made up on what I was going to do. Should have spent more time sorry.

Now for your questions. During the Rob/Marcellas eviction, I decided that I was going to split my vote. I did it to gain your trust and think that you and I were the only ones to evict Robert, creating a “yay we made a big move” kind of mentality. The same went for Kara. My explanation is given in Hardy’s thread if you’d like more details. Going into the following week I was hoping you would grab the HOH. I knew that if you had enough trust with me after the Roberts vote, you would be down to take out Hardy (Idk why you wouldn’t have anyway) and I’d be safe even if he won veto.

I have no ill will for Robert what so ever. I believe all negative comments where said before he was put on the block. You made it very apparent that you wanted Hardy out of the game. It was also known at that point that Robert was closely aligned with Hardy. I talked negatively about the two because I didn’t want you to pair them with me. I needed to gain your trust so I could use you to eliminate Hardy and keep me safe and then in turn I was going to eliminate you. If I said anything bad about Robert after he was nominated, then it was probably out of the frustration that he had been making deals left and right with people in the house. I couldn’t have someone play the same game I was playing.

You want the truth about Ian? Ok. Before it was announce that you were going to be Co-HOH, you were going to go up. At the time, my two targets in the house were you and Marcellas. After you joined me in my HOH reign a plan was created. Robert Hardy and Dani proposed to me that I should disagree with you on purpose and put ourselves on the block in order to vote you out. In the end I decided that it was too risky for me to make that move to evict you (Even after you betrayed my trust by telling Marcellas I was going for him. Marcellas told me). I could never forgive myself if I got voted out before jury when I had the safety of HOH. 5 votes is a lot of votes, and all it took was one person to come up with a plan to keep you and I would have been gone. Anyway, after declining the plan I decided that my target for the week was Marcellas. After he won veto, I was put in a very difficult position. I wasn’t going to put up Roddy, Kara, or Danielle because of my close connection. I also wasn’t going to put up Wil or Robert because I wouldn’t be able to justify evicting a member of our 7-man alliance formed by Michelle (Me, Dani, Ian, Robert, Hardy, Wil, Michelle). The only person left was Ian. Hardy had his suspicions about Ian even since he campaigned to keep you after week 2. And in order to repair the crack in Hardy’s trust for me, I asked him who he wanted out. He said Ian. I had already had my suspicions about who Ian was working with. I threw the bait to him that I wanted to work with you and I hated Hardy. He responded by telling me how much he adored you and had no reason to see you go. This information was enough for me to justify to the others that Ian needed to go. I convinced you and Ian to put Ian up as a pawn because it was the only way we could send home Hardy. That was false. Anyone sitting next to Hardy at that point was going to go home. The way I see it, Ian was the only person I could evict and remain in good status in the game. I was going to refuse to put anyone else up, it was either going to be Ian or one of us. That’s the truth. There ya go.

And also let it be known, I knew the entire time Danielle was lying to me. When I asked her for proof about what you said about me and Kara, I received this….

[quote This is good, you know Shane & Kara were tight hehehe, now she goes and hes alone haha ([/quote]

I knew this was fake the moment I read it.
1.It sounded nothing like you.
2.The format was total bogus.
3.When I texted her about whether or not it was real, I received no reply.

I was going to vote you out regardless though. I promised Marcellas that I wasn’t going to vote him out and going into f4, I needed to take out the person with the better track record in order to have a shot at winning HOH or POV.

[Gnatty Martinez]

@@@@@@@@@@@@ gah omg lol uhm. Thanks for your answers. That stuff about the Ian vote is no news really, but I just wanted to hear it from you guys since Shane's been lying about it the whole time lol. Anway...



Seriously, Danielle/Ma Ma/whatever, are you trolling this finale? On one hand I hope this is the real you, because if you're just trolling in the hopes of giving Shane the win then that's extremely rude towards the entire jury and in particular Marcellas who could have been in your place. On the other hand, I almost can't believe this is real because I think you are perfectly capable of writing full sentences and paragraphs of text. I guess you won't drop your act though if it is one so whatever.

I didn't even mean that the stuff you said when I left was immature or made you look like a five year old. That was actually kinda funny and I like that you went against me since I said you were worthless lol. Just your entire performance in this finale does make you look like a five year old though. Your answers are very sloppy like you don't even care, your opening statement didn't contain any information on your game, and you don't even do efforts to spell check or spell full words.



Shane on the other hand, you're doing a good job answering these questions. Your move to split your double vote was a genius one. I just don't like rewarding cowardliness. My closest allies and my dream final four consisted of Danielle, Roddy, and you [Kara]. Yeah of course, go to the end with floaters/inactive players. And this one:

Roddy/Peter BBCAN- Also a little underrated. Very smart when it came to gameplay but had a chance to make a huge move and take out a big player but opt not too. (Like when Peter didn't use the veto on Topaz)

Just shows that you don't understand that people can actually choose to stay loyal to someone who has their back, as opposed to gunning for whoever is a threat to win. You can't see that Roddy keeping me was actually a huge move. Everyone wanted me out and he went against the will of the entire house. That's a big and brave move, while voting out the threat that everyone wants gone is easy once they don't win that one crucial challenge.

Did you two know each other outside the game btw? Like with the texting and stuff?



Lol well I don't want to vote for either of you and I can't decide really #_#

[Danielle Murphree]

Natalie yesterday answering your question, I was AT WORK, and I was typing that all on a TEXT message, it was hard for me to reply, I am sorry you still feel that I am a 5 year old, and like I told the rest, this is no act, I probably won't win, cause Shane has more friends, so I feel minds are made up, yes I am trying, but honestly, what else can I do? Than just be honest and blunt with my answers, I am not gonna go on and on and on, maybe like Shane is doing [look at his answers to mine] Cause I am not trying to bullshit anyone for a vote, and I hope you can respect that.

[Shane Meaney]

First off, I don't think its fair to call my answers fake just because they are long. I think each question deserves a detailed answer in order for each jury member to get a good idea of what went on. I also by no means think I am automatically going to win. Just because I have made friends in this game doesn't justify myself receiving 1st place. I don't want to win because I have friends, I want to win because I played the better game.

I understand what loyalty is, Natalie. At that point of the game Kara and myself were working closely with Roddy. You could understand our surprise when he was willing to put up myself or Kara instead of you. I thought this was a bad move because if Kara did stay, then he would have had everyone in the house gunning for him besides you. I understand that keeping you out of danger shows great courage, but strategically it isn't going to go well for you.

Natalie if you truly believe that Danielle played a better game then I did then by all means vote her to win. I did want I needed to do in order to get to the end and honestly I would rather play a dirty game then no game at all. I know we have different views about how this game should be played and I respect your decision either way. Thanks.

[Shane Meaney]

And I did not know Danielle irl before this game. About midway through the game we exchanged numbers so we could text and talk strat. We were both busy with school and work so it was a easy way for us to communicate when we needed to.

[Gnatty Martinez]

May 3, 2013 19:03:06 GMT -5 Shane Meaney said:

I understand what loyalty is, Natalie. At that point of the game Kara and myself were working closely with Roddy. You could understand our surprise when he was willing to put up myself or Kara instead of you. I thought this was a bad move because if Kara did stay, then he would have had everyone in the house gunning for him besides you. I understand that keeping you out of danger shows great courage, but strategically it isn't going to go well for you.

It isn't all that black and white. I had a bigger target on my back than him, so I'd always leave before him. It was a big strategic move to keep me and it could have benefited him enormously had I won HOH or POV the week after. That you cannot see this because it wasn't the best for your game shows how one dimensional you are.

We're done. I still don't know who to vote, but this ain't gonna help at all.

[Shane Meaney]

Make sure you look at your vote before you cast it.